Holding a debate
Task 1 Work in pairs. Read the statement below and discuss the questions.
War is always bad and peace is always good.
In what ways are wars “bad” or “good”?
Can you give examples of wars that have been “good”?
Why is peace good and desirable?
Can you think of examples of peace between countries where the “peace” did not end the war or did not last?
Tips: These questions are important to help you to prepare for the debate. Allow reasonable time for yourself to think, you may find that these questions are not really simple yes/no questions. What is the standard for “bad” or “good”? Are there some grey area between black and white? Is it easy to define “peace” and “war”?
Task 2 Work in pairs and discuss the proposal:
There never was a good war or a bad peace.
––Benjamin Franklin, American Statesman and scientist (1706-1790)
Decide if you agree or disagree with the proposal.
Decide who will speak in favour of / against the proposal.
Make notes about your opinions in favour of / against the proposal.
For the motion:
First, we need to define “war” and “peace”. I will define “war” as a legal situation resulting from a declaration of war between states – the exception to this is civil war, which is between groups within a country. “Peace” seems to me to be more than the absence of war, so I define it as a stable situation over a period of time when there is no war or violence and people agree that there is peace. In this definition “armed conflict” is not peace, but is something between war and peace.
When people talk about “good” wars in the past, they usually refer to the reasons for going to war, say, to defend the homeland from aggression, although many wars may have mixed reasons, including some bad ones. My main point is that, even in cases of wars for good reasons, the process and result of the war include bad things to an extent that the war cannot be reasonably described as good, even if it has good aspects. We must recognize that war brings the 3 Ds of Death, Damage and Destruction for many people. This is true both for winners and losers. Was there ever a war without the 3 Ds in the process and result for some or many people on both sides? Logically and historically, the answer is NO. Therefore, ladies and gentlemen, you must support the motion: No war is purely good, all wars have the 3 Ds, and hence there was never a good war. My teammate, *** will speak about a bad peace later.
Against the motion:
My teammate has spoken eloquently about the nature of war and peace and about how we might think of a good war and a bad peace. To reject the motion, as we must, let us now turn to the word “never”. “Never” means at no time in the past (or future), so to reject the motion we simply have to find an example – one will be enough – of a good war or a bad peace. Whatever the other speakers have said – and they made interesting points – for this debate and this motion, we reject it if we find a single example of a good war or a bad peace, and this must be logically true whatever our general feelings and beliefs about war or peace are.
“Never” means at no time... so we must consider the time, situation and circumstances of a war. We have to consider the views of the people at that time. Think of the example of the Japanese invasion and occupation of Beijing, Shanghai, Nanjing and elsewhere in China in 1937. At that time, given the Japanese atrocities against Chinese women and children, from the Chinese point of view, a war against Japan was a good thing, to resist aggression, defend our people, and free our country. This justifiable defensive war outweighs the 3 Ds mentioned by the former speaker. Even though the Chinese people knew there would be sacrifices, hardship and suffering, we also knew that not to resist through war would be much worse. So it was a good war for Chinese people.
Now, an example of a bad peace. We do not have to look far. Just look at the Arab countries and Israel. There were wars in 1956, 1967 and 1973, and so-called peace in between and later, but as we know, this “peace” has included invasions, occupations, attacks with missiles, bombings, shootings, lots of fighting, lots of refugees, and so on. This is not war because as the former speaker said, war is a legal matter. Yet this situation continues when peace agreements have been signed, so it is not war. Yet no one can say this is “peace”. But you can say it is “a bad peace”, because there are a lot of bad feelings, a lot of insecurity, a lot of disagreements, and a lack of trust, love and kindness... and we commonly see the 3 Ds in this “bad peace”. So, this is an example of a bad peace, and with one example, ladies and gentlemen, you must reject the motion.
Task 3 Find another pair who disagree with your opinions and discuss the proposal.
Task 4 Work with the whole class and hold a debate.